Deaf Soldiers
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Hey John, there were stories that there were deaf men in WW2 as well, Also there was some one called DEAF SMITH,, he was supposed to be involved in the ALAMO,,?? so I guess its time to dig into our research engines and see what we can come up with
Jodi
Oh wow! Nice of 1980 NAD Conference to ride on STEAMBOAT! Wish I can go NAD in New Orleans this summer but stuck with my almost last SENORITY LIST from my job!!! Would love to go NAD Conference but it is always on July 4th (too popular for my co worker invade that VACATION CHOICE selection!) Dang!
Very interesting about Deaf Soldier in history! No wonder Abe Lincoln was the FIRST REPUBLICAN US President did signed First Deaf College in Washington DC!!! He possible got good heart from Deaf Brotherhood from North and South Deaf Soldiers!
Thanks so much for sharing that story! Hope you will enjoy this VERY COLD WEATHER! Brrrr! Can't imagine how Deaf Soldiers survive in bbrrrr COLD WEATHER???
Hello,
Thank you for the information with us. I would like to share with you about my father. My father is profoundly deaf and he was born in Ukraine of German family. During World War 2, German army invaded the Ukraine and he was selected into the elite group, SS. He told me many stories about his experiences during WW2 as being a SS solider. He once met Himmler, head of SS. He met him and congratulated him being part of elite group, SS.
After WW2, he was arrested by Russian army for being part of SS group. He was released because he is deaf and it is unlikely that SS will select the person with a disabilities. Interestedly, he does still have the mark of SS in his armpit! He escaped from Germany and moved to other country.
He had a family and many friends (deaf Germans who moved with him) who are protecting him around.
No more further information.
Good one! I enjoyed listening your story!
About my hearing dog (Sally) and deaf dog (Cookie), they were playing and playing all day along because Sally tried to tell the Cookie to stop by grrr and biting...Cookie didn't hear her. Poor Sally!
Deaf Smith is only i know who is deaf soldier in the history. Smith company (bakery) named after him. he tried to put bomb on the bridge somehow he died. he is one who VERY BRAVO, SAVIOR WAR. it's happened at texas border against mexico. texas group want take it as U.S.A. state but Mexico against it so decide war that's what stories i heard about but other u talk about it i have no heard about it might make up or true. who know?
Joshua "Vampbat" Womick
I tried to left video message in deafvideo, but it was old message for others. I was saying, "Wow, thanks for sharing, and I need to researching and asking lot of historian people to see if it's true. It would be nice if it's true. If it's true therefore the America will look lot different and more respect to our culture nowaday.
Hi John,
Yes I remember that story about deaf soldiers about 20 years ago. It was a group of Deaf German soldiers who were forced to put in front line and fought against Allies. To my understanding, most of them were killed by so many bombs. It looked like it was tough battle.
I also read one story about two brothers (nothing to do with deaf). During the War of 1812 in the area of Niagara Falls (I think), one brother was Canadian soldier and another brother was American soldier. During the night, they fought against each other directly and did not see each other well. After that, the Canadian soldier found out that he just killed his American brother. He was so dismayed.
Wow, that blows me away! Not with any guns, but with your ASL!
Hi, there is one story does remind me of, "Deaf Smith" when I visited the "Remember the Alamo" sometime around middle of 70's, anyway he fought the battle back in late 1700's. He died at age of 50 and called him as Texas Spy.
Jo Ann
Yes, that is true story.
Come on, don't be a fool like ABC!
I wish I could knew about background history in Canada and does happened alike yours... (hmmmm)
I have not gone researching related to Deaf part of War Civil.. (hmmmm)
Pretty interesting your story about it.
Hello...
I used to teach Deaf History. And I do have materials pertaining to the deaf roles in many of conflicts during the course of American History as well as the world history.
Yes, there were deaf Nazis. And yes, there were the roles of deaf guerrila or resistance fighters in the Nazi-occupied countries. If you are interested, I can look into scanning a rare picture of deaf Nazis.
And as for American Civil War, yes even the deaf residential schools..especially in the south..wouldnt escape the effects of the war. For example, a popular teacher at Alamaba School for the Deaf decided to resign and join the army...it was said that almost 200 students wanted to join with him.
However, there is no record of Abe Lincoln being impressed with the deaf brotherhood as you said. But Lincoln is very familiar with the deaf given his special friendship with Thomas Gallaudet and Laurent Clerc.
John..let me know if you would like anything...PM me and I will see about sending materials your way.
When I was student at Texas School for the Deaf, I saw few photos of Deaf soldiers marched around on football field in preparing for WW2. none of them were called to go there. cool! maybe somebody there at TSD can send some photos of them.
Hi ABC -
That was awesome stories. I didn't think that some of them we had Deaf Soilders. That'd be so amazing if it was all true.
I always liked your jokes and stories so please keep vlog.
Peace with you
- Deaf Dreamer
Hi there,
Yeah that sounds interesting about Civil War, I'm pretty sure if a deaf Iraqian bumped into an American deaf person, they would converse in sign language, wouldn't they???
DeafDC wrote a similar story about US deaf man tried to get into the military...
http://www.deafdc.com/blog/shane-feldman/2007-02-15/deaf-soldiers/
There's this other link to few lines about deaf and WWII
http://clerccenter.gallaudet.edu/WorldAroundYou/WWII/soldiers.html
During WWII, many deaf contributed greatly to the war by working in manufacturing jobs that made needed parts for weapons and equipments. Just as many women contributed by keeping good ole American baseball leaque going.
I'm sure there's more history on this, one would have to dig further...
~Candy
I learned interesting story from you today and I wish I knew if it was true. I vaguely remember someone saying that there was deaf soldier long time ago but I did not know if it was true. Maybe we will know for sure one day! and it will be more interested! Yeah, I remember about NAD convenation in Cincinnati while I was at Gally and I heard that it was best/awesome. I surely wish I did go. Oh well..
CJ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaf_Smith
Hi here I am again. I found link above. It has information on Deaf Smith being soldier.
CJ
Yes, few years ago I read somewhere in history encyclopia that deaf German soldiers were shooting the stand machine guns at front line during WW2
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If deaf who serves in an army for the reason that so they might be good shooter. Could be true?
Jim
Hi John, I have to inform you that American, British and Russia were allies in World War II. American armed force was never against Russa. I already heard before it. It is true story. Some deaf persons moved out from USA into Canada and helped Canada in War. US Government do not allow Deaf persons join in USA Military. I believe Most deaf persons should join in Military service if they want, because they want to be support and serve in our country. It is not fair to us, because we already pay Federal Tax. US Government do not should say no or illegal for Deaf in Military. Other few countries allow Deaf join into Military service. I wanted to join in Marines Crops when I was young. I am disappoint. I want to be proud myself to serve in our country. My great great great grandfather was served in American Revolutionary War.
We thanked Deaf who involved to service in our country before Civil War! They are brave. We proud of them. God bless them.
Vernon
Thank you
Good story telling... well Hilter ordered any disabled to be destroyed no matter if they were Ayran... Yes, fact about Deaf Smith
in Texas county in Texas was named in honor of him as Deaf Smith County. Involved in battle with Sam Houston... You can learn more about Deaf Smith in Texas History website..
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By R. Neil Battle, T.S.D. Class of 1950
Deaf Soldiers Involved in the Civil War
When I was a college student at Gallaudet University during the early 1950’s, there was a lot of discussion among students in Dr. Powie’s American History class about deaf volunteers involved in the Civil War.
For years, I was trying to find a book written by an unknown researcher. Finally a former student Sherry (Trotter, ’77) Moran presented me a copy of "A Study of American Deaf Folklore" by Susan Rutherford, PhD, as a gift. The following story comes from this book. Mrs. Moran currently teaches at Maryville College in Maryville, Tennessee.
According to Dr. Rutherford’s book, there was a time during the Civil War that both armies were running short of men. Both the Union and Confederate armies began recruiting any able-bodied man they could find. Neither army cared if the recruit could hear or not. So it happened that there were Northern deaf soldiers and Southern deaf soldiers facing one another across the battlefield. A story goes that this one Northern soldier was very lonely. He could not sit and chat or interact with the other men in his company. Without any other deaf people there, he felt very isolated. At the same time, there was a Southern deaf soldier suffering the same feeling of loneliness and isolation in his camp across the battlefield.
As was the case during the Civil War, the battle lines between the armies were often very close together. It was not common for soldiers from both armies to talk to one another during a lull in the fighting. One evening the Northern deaf soldiers decided to take a walk in the woods. To his shock, he came upon a Confederate soldier also on a walk through the woods. Both soldiers drew their guns on each other. One of the soldiers began to gesture nervously. The other recognized the signs and asked in sign language, "Are you deaf?" The other soldier replied, "Yes! Yes!" The first soldier signed, "Same as me, we are both deaf!" "Same as me!" signed the second soldier. Delighted to have found each other, they quickly put away their guns and began to talk and talk and talk.
Soon some of the men from the Northern soldier’s company noticed he was missing and sent out a party to look for him, as did the group from the Southern soldier’s company. Both search parties happened upon the two deaf soldiers talking in the woods. Each group suspected espionage within their ranks but no one knew who might be the spy. As both groups approached the two deaf men, they drew their weapons and pointed the guns as the two soldiers. The deaf soldiers quickly communicated, "No, no, we are deaf, that’s all." They pleaded with their respective search parties, to keep it a secret and not report them to their superiors. They were just happy to see another deaf person whom they could communicate with. They begged that their actions not be misunderstood and insisted they were not guilty of treason, a crime for which they would certainly be hung. They so convinced the members of the search party that both groups stayed with the deaf men and socialized, ate and drank together into the night. Afterwards each group went back to their respective camps.
copy/paste from this web site http://tsdeaf.org/to/know.html
(The Tennessee Observer)
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